diff --git a/cinder/tests/unit/test_solidfire.py b/cinder/tests/unit/test_solidfire.py
index cdd855c5d7c..1c271e3e1d6 100644
--- a/cinder/tests/unit/test_solidfire.py
+++ b/cinder/tests/unit/test_solidfire.py
@@ -272,6 +272,7 @@ class SolidFireVolumeTestCase(test.TestCase):
             return test_qos_spec
 
         def _fake_do_volume_create(account, params):
+            params['provider_location'] = '1.1.1.1 iqn 0'
             return params
 
         sfv = solidfire.SolidFireDriver(configuration=self.configuration)
@@ -1789,3 +1790,24 @@ class SolidFireVolumeTestCase(test.TestCase):
                                  {'initiatorSecret': 'shhh',
                                   'targetSecret': 'dont-tell'},
                                  {}))
+
+    def test_pythons_try_except(self):
+        def _fake_retrieve_rep(vol):
+            raise exception.SolidFireAPIException
+
+        sfv = solidfire.SolidFireDriver(configuration=self.configuration)
+        with mock.patch.object(sfv,
+                               '_get_create_account',
+                               return_value={'accountID': 5}),\
+                mock.patch.object(sfv,
+                                  '_retrieve_qos_setting',
+                                  return_value=None),\
+                mock.patch.object(sfv,
+                                  '_do_volume_create',
+                                  return_value={'provider_id': '1 2 xxxx'}),\
+                mock.patch.object(sfv,
+                                  '_retrieve_replication_settings',
+                                  side_effect=_fake_retrieve_rep):
+            self.assertRaises(exception.SolidFireAPIException,
+                              sfv.create_volume,
+                              self.mock_volume)
diff --git a/cinder/volume/drivers/solidfire.py b/cinder/volume/drivers/solidfire.py
index ffa1cc43796..4c936616eef 100644
--- a/cinder/volume/drivers/solidfire.py
+++ b/cinder/volume/drivers/solidfire.py
@@ -147,7 +147,8 @@ class SolidFireDriver(san.SanISCSIDriver):
         2.0.2 - Implement secondary account
         2.0.3 - Implement cluster pairing
         2.0.4 - Implement volume replication
-
+        2.0.5 - Try and deal with the stupid retry/clear issues from objects
+                and tflow
     """
 
     VERSION = '2.0.2'
@@ -1183,12 +1184,27 @@ class SolidFireDriver(san.SanISCSIDriver):
             params['name'] = vname
             params['attributes']['migration_uuid'] = volume['id']
             params['attributes']['uuid'] = v
+
         model_update = self._do_volume_create(sf_account, params)
-        rep_settings = self._retrieve_replication_settings(volume)
-        if self.replication_enabled and rep_settings:
-            volume['volumeID'] = int(model_update['provider_id'].split()[0])
-            self._replicate_volume(volume, params,
-                                   sf_account, rep_settings)
+        try:
+            rep_settings = self._retrieve_replication_settings(volume)
+            if self.replication_enabled and rep_settings:
+                volume['volumeID'] = (
+                    int(model_update['provider_id'].split()[0]))
+                self._replicate_volume(volume, params,
+                                       sf_account, rep_settings)
+        except exception.SolidFireAPIException:
+            # NOTE(jdg): Something went wrong after the source create, due to
+            # the way TFLOW works and it's insistence on retrying the same
+            # command over and over coupled with the fact that the introduction
+            # of objects now sets host to None on failures we'll end up with an
+            # orphaned volume on the backend for every one of these segments
+            # that fail, for n-retries.  Sad Sad Panda!!  We'll just do it
+            # ourselves until we can get a general fix in Cinder further up the
+            # line
+            with excutils.save_and_reraise_exception():
+                sf_volid = int(model_update['provider_id'].split()[0])
+                self._issue_api_request('DeleteVolume', {'volumeID': sf_volid})
         return model_update
 
     def _retrieve_replication_settings(self, volume):
@@ -1316,8 +1332,9 @@ class SolidFireDriver(san.SanISCSIDriver):
                         self._issue_api_request('DeleteVolume', params,
                                                 endpoint=cluster['endpoint'])
 
-            params = {'volumeID': sf_vol['volumeID']}
-            self._issue_api_request('DeleteVolume', params)
+            if sf_vol['status'] == 'active':
+                params = {'volumeID': sf_vol['volumeID']}
+                self._issue_api_request('DeleteVolume', params)
             if volume.get('multiattach'):
                 self._remove_volume_from_vags(sf_vol['volumeID'])
         else: